Comments on: Language, education and poverty https://languageonthemove.com/language-education-and-poverty/ Multilingualism, Intercultural communication, Consumerism, Globalization, Gender & Identity, Migration & Social Justice, Language & Tourism Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:50:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: L https://languageonthemove.com/language-education-and-poverty/#comment-9111 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:50:01 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=4677#comment-9111 “Common ordinary Pakistanis want to have access to socio-economically powerful languages” – indeed; so why not try to change which languages are socio-economically powerful? There’s no intrinsic reason why English should be a prerequisite for middle-class jobs within Pakistan, or why it should be the working language of much of the civil service. The mistake of nativisation campaigns in places like Algeria has been to start from the bottom, depriving “the poverty-stricken multitudes” of languages they need to advance themselves; try starting from the top, and depriving the elites of the privilege of being able to work in a language whose mastery distinguishes them from poor people.

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By: Dr. Hafiz Muhammad Iqbal https://languageonthemove.com/language-education-and-poverty/#comment-4524 Mon, 02 May 2011 07:08:36 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=4677#comment-4524 Dear M.A Khan Sahib

I agree with you that the real issue is poverty, but does the solution lie in English as a medium of instruction? I do agree that every one needs to learn English to compete and live a successful life in today’s world. But, as a student of “Education” I believe that current policy of the government using English as a medium of instruction will lead to further deprive and margenlize the poor and rural people as they do not have enough resources and infrastructure to provide an input needed for thier children to decelop skill and competence in a foreign language. This will result in a competetive disadvantage for them rather beniffiting them.

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By: Andrew https://languageonthemove.com/language-education-and-poverty/#comment-3006 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:04:34 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=4677#comment-3006 Thank you for this post. I agree that, too often, Western linguists do not sufficiently consider the grinding poverty of the language groups they work with.

Are you sure youve thoroughly understood Colemans intentions, though? Indigenous languages as a _transitional_ medium of instruction in early primary education has actually been shown to _promote_ the learning of national and global languages; as I understand it, that was in fact the goal of his entire report. Students who go to school and have to learn to read in a language they dont know face strong setbacks. Do you think there is room for local language development in that limited capacity?

Also, you state that ordinary Pakistanis want to teach their children their local language, but perhaps this is not true everywhere, as Coleman found (see p.18). If mothers speak only English to their children, eventually the local languages will die. Do you see this as a concern?

Thank you again. I would love to hear your thoughts.

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By: Lachlan Jackson https://languageonthemove.com/language-education-and-poverty/#comment-3003 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 10:41:59 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=4677#comment-3003 Thanks Kahn for this moving post. You wrote recently in your reflective ALMA post of your hope to let your own voice come out in your writing. You have excelled! Thanks indeed for YOUR moving words. I really enjoyed reading this piece.
Lockie

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By: Mohammad Zafar https://languageonthemove.com/language-education-and-poverty/#comment-3002 Sun, 06 Feb 2011 09:06:07 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=4677#comment-3002 In reply to abeer.

Dear Mohammad Ali
Your comments really deserve merit as it contradicts made by a passing passenger to Pakistan. In this capitialist dominated world people want and need a straight answer. What do I get in whatever I invest ? What are my returns on this investment. Will my scholarly insight into a provincial language of Pakistan ensure a good job in an national/internation bank ? The answer is obviously No so why should I invest in something that does not offer any returns.
How many peoplein England, today, are keen to learn Latin and Greek ? If not, why not ? English is no more a language but now it is capital. Good communication skills in English are honoured worldover as an international currency, accepted everywhere. Please do not offer offer me skimmed milk while you enjoy the cream ! Make good easily accessible to all ! Provide equal opportunities. These concepts will improve social justice and bring about balances in inequality present all over the country.

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By: abeer https://languageonthemove.com/language-education-and-poverty/#comment-2996 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 12:16:20 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=4677#comment-2996 Sir Khan,
Good artical, really it`s touch my heart before my mind .
I want to ask :you have written about main issue (language,education and poverty),but what are the best solutions for this issues?why this artical not published for public people?
I think that the public people need to rise their voice high and ask for fast solutions for education,electricity and English Language.
I`m looking forward a new topic.

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