Comments on: Language learning is integral to practice-based legal education https://languageonthemove.com/language-learning-is-integral-to-practice-based-legal-education/ Multilingualism, Intercultural communication, Consumerism, Globalization, Gender & Identity, Migration & Social Justice, Language & Tourism Tue, 26 Dec 2023 20:41:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: Intercultural communication in migration law practice – Language on the Move https://languageonthemove.com/language-learning-is-integral-to-practice-based-legal-education/#comment-105061 Tue, 26 Dec 2023 20:41:41 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=22986#comment-105061 […] However, the study also found that practical experience and education can help future practitioners to push back against harmful discou…. […]

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By: G.S. https://languageonthemove.com/language-learning-is-integral-to-practice-based-legal-education/#comment-74851 Fri, 16 Oct 2020 11:49:23 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=22986#comment-74851 In reply to Alexandra+Grey.

Dear Alexandra,

I am not a specialist in socio-linguistics so I don’t want to comment further. but saying that good communication is part of using a language well is very problematic- we know for a fact that are several biases when it comes to communication in both social and legal contexts ( and especially in a courtroom context). So who decides that communication is good? We know that judging communication is subject to race , gender. class ( the list can go on) biases . Yes, there may not be priority to language skills in CLE in the way you expect because language is not considered a separate domain from the practice of law. Based on my own practical experience I do not agree that language and communication skills are not foregrounded by educators in the context of CLE – this includes the Global South. It’s a different matter how far things are implemented.

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By: Alexandra+Grey https://languageonthemove.com/language-learning-is-integral-to-practice-based-legal-education/#comment-74846 Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:22:30 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=22986#comment-74846 Hi GS. I have not argued that good communication is necessarily based on knowledge of a language or on words alone. I have argued that communication skills are part of learning to use a language well, and that participants were very pleased to have both language and communication skills foregrounded in their practice-based legal education activities.

Moreover, advocacy skills are not the only skills of legal communication in question here.

I have also not argued that advocacy skills are entirely absent from legal education, but rather that language and communication skills are (a) not a priority in the theory or empirical research on CLE, based on an extensive literature review, and (b) that language skills are not necessarily foregrounded by educators, either. They could be made much more visible to students and designed much more deliberately into practice-based and clinical legal activities.

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By: G.S. https://languageonthemove.com/language-learning-is-integral-to-practice-based-legal-education/#comment-74844 Thu, 15 Oct 2020 20:34:46 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=22986#comment-74844 I find this article troubling as good communication is not necessarily based on knowledge of a language but other skills which involve interpersonal competence and histrionics ( usage of body language is a moot point). Being an effective speaker and convincing your audience does not involve linguistic competence -Donald Trump is an illustration of the same

The author is wrong that advocacy skills are ignored in legal education ( perhaps this is an issue in Australian law schools). As someone in legal education I can assure you that advocacy skills are extremely important and are intertwined with substantive aspects of law along with practice- based aspects such as the audience /judges.

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