Comments on: Reading to learn in another language https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/ Multilingualism, Intercultural communication, Consumerism, Globalization, Gender & Identity, Migration & Social Justice, Language & Tourism Tue, 31 Oct 2023 00:51:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: Ingrid Piller https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-104092 Tue, 31 Oct 2023 00:51:34 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-104092 In reply to Logan.

Thank you, Logan, for your kind words! That’s so good to read 🙂

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By: Logan https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-104029 Mon, 30 Oct 2023 12:02:15 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-104029 I appreciate your fantastic article once again. Your lectures and articles have liberated me from my obsession with using so-called authentic multi-modal materials like movies or TV news. Looking back, I realize that my most absorbing English learning experiences occurred when I read to learn and found joy in reading itself. It was in the 2nd Aviation Army library in Seoul.
I confess that I have been somewhat indifferent to the struggling readers in my school, justified by the burden of assessing too many students and preparing for national exams. Now, I believe that the sooner I intervene and help struggling readers, the quicker they will develop into expert readers with automaticity. Above all, I need to help my students experience the joy of reading and to read for learning. Sometimes, I might need to use compulsory tools such as evaluation. I won’t forget the Matthew effect in reading. I have many ideas to implement, such as having my students write reading notes regularly and conducting group presentations after the discussion of their chosen book. Thank you so much!

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By: Ingrid Piller https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-103859 Fri, 27 Oct 2023 22:01:40 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-103859 In reply to Brownie.

Thanks, Brownie, for these important reflections! Being mindful of the dual challenge faced by young multilingual learners is undoubtedly the first step. Only with recognition of the problem can we start to find improvements.

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By: Brownie https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-103791 Fri, 27 Oct 2023 00:33:47 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-103791 In reply to Snorlax.

It is a big challenge for young age students who use languages which are not the language in their school to read and understand the meaning of textbooks, especially for immigrant students or students from minority communities. Their L1 is not strong enough to be the foundation to develop their L2. As an adult learner and reader, I can easily understand the meaning by using translation tools. However, young age learners cannot understand the meaning even in L1, so it’s really hard for them to understand in L2, and it may lead to both languages are underachieved. I think the multilingual schools should provide them some linguistic supports to fill the gap between L1 and L2 such as create bilingual environment or activities in which they can practice and improve their L1 and L2, or based on their language proficiency, the schools can provide some bilingual books so that they practice both languages.

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By: Lynn https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-103435 Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:09:46 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-103435 When revising the topic of how to write a fabulous assignment, I want to return to this blog and share some reflections. As mentioned, the important stages of writing a fabulous assignment are Orientation and Structuring. These two stages require us to do a lot of readings. I think assignments are essential for students to practice learning autonomy as well as evaluate where they are on the learning journey. Thanks to the assignments, I have had a lot of opportunities to read materials and improve my English. When I read an article or a book to collect ideas, I feel very happy that I am doing what I love, and I can learn more vocabulary, phrases and the way authors write sentences as well as express their ideas. I also found out that the more I read, the more professional writing I achieve.

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By: Ingrid Piller https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-102358 Thu, 21 Sep 2023 21:56:21 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-102358 In reply to Justin.

You should start a new novel and try it out 🙂

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By: Justin https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-102335 Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:06:30 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-102335 In reply to Em.

Thanks for sharing your experience, Em. I could relate to the lack of opportunities for unintentional English reading as in my country in the 2000s, before the social media era. Foreign books were also a luxury at that time, so our exposure to English was quite limited to textbooks. But those classic textbooks were how I learned to read in English. I remembered the frustration when not being able to understand a text despite already looking up all the words, but I guess it is normal when learning to read in any foreign language.

I only started picking up some English-language literature during my bachelor’s degree, just because it was required in the course. A strange experience, I’d say – as the teaching and learning of the literature was done in much a Vietnamese education style, although our lecturers talked in English in the lesson. I couldn’t feel much the value of the works. Nowadays, while I feel comfortable reading anything in English, literature is the only area that does not give me enough excitement to pick up a book. I’m just wondering whether this feeling may change if I start reading a new novel now, in our current rich English environment.

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By: Tasnim https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-102328 Thu, 21 Sep 2023 06:02:29 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-102328 In reply to Jaehoon Kim.

Hello Jaehoon, I have found some interesting information from you. I did not know that Chinese had and still has such significance in the education system of Korea. I know Korean celebrities know basic Chinese or Japanese but I thought it’s because of their contract or something. But after reading what you said I understood that it’s not celebrities but all Korean students who learn Chinese. I guess it’s because some areas of Korea was once colonized by China, so to learn the history you need to learn the language? I know about the Japanese invasion of Korea but I have no idea if something similar happened between Korea and China. Thank you for sharing this fascinating information. I might look into the reason behind why Korean students need to learn Chinese since you have roused my curiosity.

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By: Japanda https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-102173 Sat, 16 Sep 2023 23:51:29 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-102173 In reply to Pineapplebun.

Hi, Pineapplebun. Your experience proves that extensive reading is very useful for developing receptive and productive skills. When I was reading your comment, I was thinking about some Japanese people who argue that their speaking skills are low just because of poor English education and the lack of opportunities to speak English in Japan. Their opinions may be true, but your comment has made me ponder another reason for their low English speaking proficiency: the lack of reading for pleasure. Many Japanese students only read English textbooks and the amount of input is quite limited. They might not realize the significance of reading to develop other skills including speaking proficiency.

Also, as you said, your personal experience demonstrates how ‘learning to read’ was transformed into ‘reading to learn’. I think the important point is that you developed habits of reading books through the process. You became used to reading in high school and you still read books that attract your attention to learn. Increasing such students must be one of the jobs English teachers should do.

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By: Ingrid Piller https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-100599 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 22:57:21 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-100599 ]]> In reply to Jhonny.

Crime and punishment has been the start of many reading careers, that’s for sure. Novels like these not only foster the love of reading but, as you say, the reader’s moral development. Hope you continue to enjoy ☺️

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By: Ingrid Piller https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-100598 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 22:51:15 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-100598 ]]> In reply to Siyao.

Thanks, Siyao! You are right – the process you describe is a time-honoured way to learn to read in a second language. The only drawback is that it can get really tedious and students may not experience much joy with reading … also, so glad to hear your keep using the OED database ☺️

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By: Ingrid Piller https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-100597 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 22:46:41 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-100597 In reply to Logan.

Thanks, Logan! A well-stocked library is such a blessing!

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By: Jhonny https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-100587 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 16:46:41 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-100587 First, I would like to express my gratitude for sharing and keeping “Language on the Move” alive. It has provided me with an opportunity to connect with tweets and texts that depict the successes and struggles of migrants. Speaking of struggles, I vividly recall my high school days. Unlike the portrayal in Matthew’s gospel, my parents had to work really hard to make ends meet, and sometimes, the pursuit of literacy and becoming a proficient reader took a backseat to more immediate and mundane concerns.

However, there was a turning point that I am profoundly indebted to, and that was my encounter with “Crime and Punishment” by Fyodor Dostoevsky. Despite stumbling upon terms that my teenage self found unintelligible, Dostoevsky crafted a mesmerizing masterpiece that completely immersed me in the reading without allowing interruptions from doubts regarding my lack of understanding. I found myself connecting with thcontext, the characters and feeling the profound sense of emptiness of reaching “the end.”

Subsequently, I revisited the text, both in Spanish and in English, with greater confidence and the belief that meaningful experiences and successfully meeting basic needs are essential achievements for all human beings looking forward to thinking outside the box.

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By: Siyao https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-100585 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 13:59:17 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-100585 Dear Ingrid,

Thank you very much for your article. English is my second language, so I want to share my experience of learning English in English reading. As the Chinese Education Department attaches great importance to English teaching, especially the cultivation of students’ reading and writing skills, the textbooks include simple reading tasks since the introduction of English classes in the third grade of elementary school in many areas, and I am no exception. Primary school is the basic stage of English learning, so we only need to master basic English vocabulary and grammar. There are no difficult words and complex sentences in reading. The teacher asked us to read short articles from the recording and recite them, so as to cultivate our sense of English. We also need to memorize the spelling and meaning of basic vocabulary in reading and the teacher will dictate them the next day.

When I entered secondary school and high school, reading become the largest part of the English test. The length is gradually longer (each article is about 200-400 words), and there are some difficult words. We need to read quickly within the specified time passage, understand its content and complete reading comprehension questions. The teacher usually requires us to prepare a word book, read the article carefully after answering the reading comprehension questions, copy the unfamiliar words in the word book and look up their meanings, and also need to sort out some fixed phrase collocations and grammatical sentence structures. I still think this is a very useful way to improve English literacy.

After I came to Macquarie University to study Ingrid’s Languages and Cultures in Contact unit, she introduced us to a website for searching etymology, which is very helpful for me to learn English vocabulary. In the subsequent English reading, I often use this website to search for the etymology of some words. I also hope to find some useful methods for me from the comments of other students on learning English through reading.

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By: Logan https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-100583 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 12:59:43 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-100583 I appreciate your article and seminar! Looking back, I studied English reading to prepare for the exam, including the English teacher exam.
I started reading to learn when I was in the U.S. military for two years. I had much free time but no distractions like a cell phone or laptop. Luckily, the library was well-stocked so I could read English novels, magazines, and comic books for free. It was a time when I could read for fun without the pressure of an English test.
When I think about my reading activities with my high school students, I see that I have been trying to move them from learning to read to reading to learn.  I’ve been doing activities like reading The Giver for a semester without a translation, making book leaflets, and letting students show how they solve their questions by reading related books.
Helping my students have automaticity and experience reading for learning and pleasure through my lessons would be gratifying. I will continue to enjoy reading for learning and reading for pleasure myself.

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By: Ingrid Piller https://languageonthemove.com/reading-to-learn-in-another-language/#comment-100581 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 10:32:03 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=21850#comment-100581 ]]> In reply to Arghavan.

Thanks, Arghavan! Interesting reflection about learning to read in a 3rd language. For me, English was my 3rd language and similar to your German. The way I remember it, it was nowhere near as hard as learning to read in Latin … same for Spanish and French, but very different with Persian – trying to develop fluency with a new script is really hard, once the content of primers and easy readers is boring but you don’t have the skills to read anything more interesting 😔

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