Comments on: Visit to Abrahamic Family House https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/ Multilingualism, Intercultural communication, Consumerism, Globalization, Gender & Identity, Migration & Social Justice, Language & Tourism Sun, 19 Jan 2025 22:11:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: Paul Desailly https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/#comment-111304 Sun, 19 Jan 2025 22:11:24 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=25978#comment-111304 In reply to Sara Hillman.

My dear old mother long deceased, Brigid Conlan, taught me how the English in charge go about things. ‘Tanks mum’, as they used to say in Eire. I’m still saying my prayers, I promise. Rest easy! Hell, with French heritage in the male line, albeit from seven generations ago, this old Aussie recognizes Anglophilia. Too many notes in Mozart’s music becomes too many questions in an academic’s modus operandi when a hot potato appears. Keep ya hair shirt on, Brits. Just kidding! Question time is good for early risers Anna, but answer time is better for everyone. Wisely, your many questions start with ‘create’, and close with ‘belief’.

To ‘create a whole other set of political issues’ is exactly what is required as the Donald takes over leadership of the free world – tomorrow. OMG! A skeptic’s “I’ll believe it when I see it” becomes a religionist’s “You’ll see it when you believe.” BUT, by religion is meant that which is ascertained by investigation and not that which is based on mere imitation.

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By: Anna Dillon https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/#comment-111299 Sun, 19 Jan 2025 16:49:30 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=25978#comment-111299 In reply to Paul Desailly.

While it might be difficult to separate linguistic issues from political issues – and it is – I don’t believe that the creation of a new language would necessarily solve those issues. It might just create a whole other set of political issues. Mind you, I understand the effort in making a neutral language. But, for whom would the language(s) be neutral or even inclusive? How privileged would one need to be in order to learn it (or them)? We would all face the same situation. We try to understand each other in one way or another. In fairness, we even get that misaligned when we speak the apparent same language. I speak English, which English? In which version of world Englishes would any of us be best understood? I speak school German and French, and so on… but no one is going to entertain me in Les Grisons, really, are they. A common language is a lingua franca. I think the point we were trying to make here was a point about common understanding, given all the languages involved (and we’ve only hit the tip of the iceberg). Isn’t it fabulous that these languages can exist together?

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By: Paul Desailly https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/#comment-111295 Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:18:45 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=25978#comment-111295 In reply to Anna Dillon.

Too true. Anna, but some civilizations did get their act together if only for a century or two. A little issue, if I may: The notion of a ‘universal’ language understandably puts lots of people off but an auxiliary language (auxlang) for every school kid in the world (in addition to their mother tongue) as was proffered officially in favor of Esperanto at the League of Nations in 1919, and looked like a shoo-in after the carnage of WW1 until the French delegate vetoed it, is a different kettle of fish. Wikipedia’s article * alludes to the role of Henri Bergson and Albert Einstein in the International Committee on Intellectual Cooperation (UNESCO’s forerunner) and how they corruptly, if not venally, ensured the Resolution’s demise. * Top photos of those two stars just as they became really famous feature therein. I’ve chronicled gratis the whole unsavory saga bilingually under the rubric:

DIPLOMACY IS IMPOTENT
WHAT WENT SO WRONG AT THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS IN THE EARLY 1920’S
MIRRORS WHAT IS STILL GOING WRONG AT THE UNITED NATIONS TODAY!
LANGUAGE IS THE KEY!

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By: Sarah Hopkyns https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/#comment-111287 Sat, 18 Jan 2025 19:06:28 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=25978#comment-111287 Thank you, Sara! Your point about the longstanding trilingual linguistic landscape of the Old City of Jerusalem is very interesting. This combination of languages (Arbic, English and Hebrew) in one space is a recent development in Abu Dhabi and quite unusual in the Gulf overall. The inter-faith space was really well thought out and beautiful to explore. Yes, the language choices around the religious gobos were very interesting indeed! We are planning to do more research on this topic. Will keep you updated!

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By: Anna Dillon https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/#comment-111272 Fri, 17 Jan 2025 23:21:10 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=25978#comment-111272 Ach, Paul, while a universal language would be epic in some ways it doesn’t seem to be how us humans work in society. For the time being, let’s language together, qu’est-ce on dit? Stimmt?

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By: Sara Hillman https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/#comment-111270 Fri, 17 Jan 2025 23:07:49 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=25978#comment-111270 Very interesting read about such a unique and debated site in the Gulf! It feels like they tried to bring a touch of the Old City of Jerusalem—where trilingual signage in Hebrew, Arabic, and English is common, and mosques, synagogues, and churches exist side by side—to Abu Dhabi. The part about displaying verses from the Torah in Arabic and English (but not Hebrew) or the Quran in Hebrew and English (but not Arabic) really stood out to me. Definitely a bold choice!

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By: Paul Desailly https://languageonthemove.com/visit-to-abrahamic-family-house/#comment-111256 Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:37:34 +0000 https://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=25978#comment-111256 The road, or in this case the wall to perdition, is said to be paved with the best of intentions. I was climbing the bloody wall on bringing to mind how diversified the Babel story-myth-legend-teaching became when the leaders of the Abrahamic traditions instructed their writers what to record. (Wikipedia provides a mind-boggling and polished account of their three different interpretations and throws in a few more back to Gilgamesh.) Self-evidently, what’s required is for the UN or its next iteration or the parliaments of the world to SELECT A UNIVERSAL AUXLANG for every school kid in the world (or at a minimum to start agitating for one!) before the Middle East goes up in smoke and sees billions of victims elsewhere evaporate in the same vortex. Esperanto would be the fairest choice but the language of Shakespeare or Ogden’s Basic English are all fine by me, as long as something, anything, is done instead of the hand wringing and highfalutin belly aching and impotent (not useless!) diplomacy that goes on ad infinitum today. I don’t see anyone on this site objecting to either variant of that imperial, colonial, racist & grossly sexist alternative we all call the English language, what?

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