Comments on: Who profits from an early start in English? https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/ Multilingualism, Intercultural communication, Consumerism, Globalization, Gender & Identity, Migration & Social Justice, Language & Tourism Thu, 10 Apr 2025 20:28:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: 如何教幼兒英語? - Good學習天地 https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-113029 Thu, 10 Apr 2025 20:28:57 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-113029 […] 在台灣,許多家長都認同越早開始學習英語越好 [[2]]。然而,單純的課本教學往往難以吸引幼兒的注意力。因此,善用遊戲與情境,將英語學習融入孩子們的日常,是激發他們學習興趣的關鍵。透過寓教於樂的方式,讓英語不再是枯燥的學科,而是充滿樂趣的探索。 […]

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By: jeff https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-19682 Fri, 23 Aug 2013 02:19:33 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-19682 In reply to Jackie Chang.

This is just a straw man argument. No academic really believes that all that is needed is an early start– as if this is the only factor and the quality of education, environment, motivation, ect don’t matter. Of course it is “a bit more complicated than just getting an early start”!

But the Taiwanese government actually goes many steps further and alleges not that it is “a bit more complicated than just getting an early start” but actually argues that English is harmful to children, and bans its presence by law in kindergartens.

There is an enormous logical gulf that separates these two positions, but all too often in Taiwanese government policy good research is substituted for slight of hand where the arguments above are used interchangeably. It is farce, and it is unfortunate. The real issue is the quality of English education that most kindergartens provide, which you have correctly alluded to in other posts, but again the slight of hand removes this from the equation and instead frames the argument around the presence of language programs rather than around their quality.

The result of the ban on rather than regulation of early childhood English education is the creation of a permanent underclass whereby the wealthy send their kids to experimental schools, international schools, bilingual schools that are rich enough to ignore the law, or hire private tutors, ect while the poor and middle class kids are barred by force of law from the same opportunities.

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By: Jackie Chang https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16668 Fri, 10 May 2013 05:47:09 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16668 In reply to Li Jia.

Li Jia, thank you very much for your comments. Language learning is a journey and not a destination. Something I think all students should bear in mind is the fact that there are different registers of language. The language level a student wants to attain needs to in line with the purpose of learning the language.

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By: Jackie Chang https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16664 Fri, 10 May 2013 02:17:13 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16664 In reply to Andrew Bunting.

Andrew, Thank you very much for your interest in my post. I don’t necessarily think that starting at a young age is a bad thing. On the other hand, I have seen this earlier-the-better approach emphasized and it has not yielded very good results; Taiwan continues to be ranked very low internationally when it comes to English language learning. This indicates that there is a variety of other language learning factors that need to be considered. As for looking at the subject of language learning and its relation to a foundation in one’s native language, you might be interested in looking at chapter 2 and 9 of my Ph.D thesis.

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By: Jackie Chang https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16663 Fri, 10 May 2013 01:41:48 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16663 In reply to ICAL TEFL.

Thank you very much for your interest in my post. There is certainly a lot of conflicting research and schools of thought when it comes to language learning. I do agree that language schools are cherry picking to suit their needs and ignoring a lot of the research that may not be in line with their own brand of language learning.

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By: Jackie Chang https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16662 Fri, 10 May 2013 01:34:01 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16662 In reply to Clarissa.

Clarissa, thanks for your comments. Although environment is not the sole determinant in language learning it does play a significant role. I have seen some Taiwanese achieve great English speaking ability without traveling abroad, but this is not the norm. Also, I don’t disagree with working to learn another language in one’s home country. After all, you have to start somewhere. However, I do think achieving a high level of proficiency is a bit more complicated than just getting an early start or manufacturing environments (English Village).

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By: Li Jia https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16616 Mon, 06 May 2013 23:11:45 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16616 Thanks for your post, Jackie. I quite agree with your statement “there is no absolute finish line regarding English language learning”. Take a look at the “acknowledges” by PhD students in their finished theses, many of them who used to be university English teachers still find their English not good enough to prepare themselves for advanced academic pursuit in an English speaking country. Thus, knowing what we truly need is the only way to figure out how to learn it and when to learn it instead of being trapped in the hype “not lose out at the starting point”. Wise learning comes from wise mind anyway.

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By: ICAL TEFL https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16579 Mon, 06 May 2013 09:17:10 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16579 I’ve seen conflicting research on this and, as far as I am concerned, the jury is still out. However what is happening here is not, I believe, schools evaluating the research and providing the best possible solution to their students. It is merely the schools cherry picking the research to backup their own desire for more profits. The results may be perfectly justified, but the path used to get there is slightly askew!

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By: Andrew Bunting https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16577 Mon, 06 May 2013 04:22:24 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16577 I appreciate a research driven approach on this subject, because I know that advancing arguments from any agenda has manifold policy and practice implications. You mention that research says that a “firm foundation in the native language” is the key to success to second language acquisition. However, claiming that an early start in a second language is counter-productive to this end is not something you asserted from a research basis. I really need to see some clear research proving diminished outcomes from early education in second languages. I say this because unfortunately the policy outcome of this kind of argument is more often than not simply a xenophobic prohibition on non-citizens of Taiwan teaching young children, which is an absurdity of a racialist character.

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By: Clarissa https://languageonthemove.com/who-profits-from-an-early-start-in-english/#comment-16566 Sun, 05 May 2013 23:45:23 +0000 http://www.languageonthemove.com/?p=14086#comment-16566 Great post. From my point of view, teaching English to small Taiwanese children, or Chinese/Spanish to little kids in the US, etc., misses the point entirely. If these kids don’t live in a community where they can use the language with their peers, few of them will retain anything. The key ingredient in the speedy acquisition of an L2 by kids in immersion environments is usually that they need and want to use it with native and fluent speakers their own age. The “immersion” part is a little bit of a red herring, and I don’t think it can be simulated by teachers (or “English villages”).

There are a lot of other problems with these pushes. For example, I also strongly feel that kids ought to have a choice about which L2 they learn. We (teachers, parents, citizens) need to bring up these drawbacks and also examine the profit motive involved in the case of testing companies, publishers, and private schools.

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